98th in blog series on the administration push
to war. As allegations that Bush’s
“Q Scott, on this Iraq-Niger
situation, why is it that the President made the comment yesterday
that doubts were only raised about the underlying intelligence behind that
statement after the State of the Union address, when other administration
officials and other evidence suggests that's not true?
MR.
McCLELLAN: Well, when it came to our attention, when it came to the President's
attention was when the IAEA came out in March with the report showing that
those documents relating to
Q
But doubts were raised clear back to the previous --
MR. McCLELLAN:
But go back to the NIE, and in the NIE it stated that
But
let's put this in perspective. This issue here relates to the threat that
Saddam Hussein and his regime posed to the region, to his people and to the
world. And the statement in the State of the
Q
Right, but that's not -- the question I'm dealing with has to do with --
MR.
McCLELLAN: -- related to the regime's weapons of mass destruction and the threat that the regime
posed; not only that it had weapons, but it has past history.
Q
I'll ask a question about that in just a second. The point is, the President
said doubts were only raised after the State of the Union address -- and that's
not accurate. Why did he say that?
MR.
McCLELLAN: And it was laid out previously. I think we've addressed this. We've
addressed this over the last couple of days, about the timing of when we found
out that those -- that the documents were forged.
Q
But learning about the forgeries was one piece of this. But doubts about the
intelligence were raised last year.
MR.
McCLELLAN: The bottom line is that we should not have put that line in the
speech, and we've made that clear.”
The
argument, as the next reporter makes clear, is part of the much larger argument
about the administration’s insistence on WMD as a cause for war:
“Q
Yesterday, as a follow-up, your predecessor said it was "a bunch of
bull" to suggest that
MR.
McCLELLAN: Wait a second. That was one part of the overall body of evidence
that I talked about. And it is nonsense to suggest that there was any political
reason behind those statements.
But
the threat was established by Iraq's use of chemical weapons, not only that
they had them, but that they had used them in the past; by UNSCOM's final
report in 1999, which documented that thousands of chemical and biological
weapons remained unaccounted for; and by Saddam Hussein's active defiance of
the international community, and continued defiance, including the
well-documented fact that Iraq never fully and completely cooperated with UN
inspectors.
Q
You're not disputing the notion that central to the argument for going to war
was the threat posed by
MR.
McCLELLAN: That was one part of a large body of evidence about why. You go back
--
Q It
was more than one part.
MR.
McCLELLAN: The reconstituting of nuclear weapons? That was one part. That was
one part of the larger body of evidence.”
July 15/16 – The Italian newspaper La Repubblica says that Prime Minister
Berlusconi’s government and the Italian secret service, SISMI, were the source
of the forged documents; Berlusconi, about to travel to the
“QUESTION: Within the NSC, was it, in fact, Bob Joseph
who wanted the information about
And why is
it that he wanted that information in there so badly, given the fact that the
CIA couldn't vouch for its accuracy? They told the British in September of '02
to take it out of their own reporting, and they wanted it out of the
president's speech in October.
So why was
the NSC hell-bent on having it in the State of the
MCCLELLAN:
Well, again, there are two different pieces that you touched on there. You
touched on the October speech, relating to
The State of the Union address focused on the reference
that was made in the National Intelligence Estimate saying that
MCCLELLAN: But at the time, before the State of the
Union, the British had also made a document public stating that claim and they
had additional sources upon which they relied. We
learned some information that we did not know at the time after the State of
the Union speech. And that was when we acknowledged that, relating some
information on some forged documents relating to one part of that overall piece
of evidence. And we said, "This did not rise to the level of a
presidential speech." And that's why it was taken out.
QUESTION: The reality is, that even though the language
was changed as it was prepared for the State of the
July 18, 2003 – Newspapers report that the
purported Niger documents were obvious forgeries, highlight differing
statements from CIA and State; e.g. Scottsbluff, Nebraska Star-Herald, Friday
July 18, 2003, “Forged documents ignored until president’s speech” (AP) [There
is wider publication of the same article on July 21.]
Same day – White House Press Secretary
Scott McClellan announces that the CIA cable about
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